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here is our interview about the break-in

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to the capitol

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with gary jackson perhaps a good place

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to start is a question a lot of people

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are asking

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which is that it appears that the

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capitol police were

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caught off guard is that your assessment

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i think it was a tremendous security

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failure

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to be honest uh

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they should have been prepared for

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hundreds of thousands of people

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marching to the capitol and there was

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uh you know you have to take your hat

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off to the few that were there

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law enforcement but there should have

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plans for this yeah so i have a lot of

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about these type of demonstrations and i

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don't know what your familiarity is with

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these type of demonstrations but

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uh let's kind of take it from the

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beginning and see what you're able to

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answer so

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it starts with trump's speech uh on

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what's what the lawn of the white house

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essentially yeah

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on the sixth i i on what on sixth street

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yeah on the sixth yes january six

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yeah but as far as the location it was

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adjacent to the white house

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now would those guys have had to go the

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people who attended have gone through a

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metal detector

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to attend that yeah it depends on

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exactly and i can't find out the exact

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proximity

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because there were way more people than

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that it stretched all the way back to

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the working monument so they were

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i haven't seen an accurate estimate

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either but it was some hundreds of

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thousands probably

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200 to 300 000 people and

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uh they relax everywhere i i have to say

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they relax

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and having formally been in the secret

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service i'm aware of how prepared they

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but i would say they were even less

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at the capitol well

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but but again i want to kind of start

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with with the first event because that

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led to the second event

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because one thing i was wondering is it

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doesn't appear

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that any of these people had guns thank

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right so going back to our original

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question do you believe that at some

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point they did have to cross through a

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metal detector to

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to attend trump's speech apparently not

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and that you know there's no information

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on that i have looked

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there's there's no information about the

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security well

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what about like you know the

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inauguration that's coming up right if

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you want to attend that inauguration

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are you going through a metal detector

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absolutely okay that seems like a

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no-brainer to me i i would think that

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any event

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where you're attending where the

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president is going to be speaking

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requires a metal detector absolutely

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even more than that ids you have to

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check ids

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so there's a lot of you how do you check

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ids on 300

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000 people i don't know but um

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wherever it was located well and it

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wasn't it wasn't at the portico

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for the trump speech would that have

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primarily secret service but they always

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so it's it's usually a gang of cops you

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from different organizations um and they

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we're used to doing this so um

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exact location because i can't find it

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the most i've seen is near the white

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detectors so my guess it's

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exactly right i think you know

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looking at capitol police you're looking

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a little surprised they weren't

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to be a peaceful march

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to cause harm so there was a fraction

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that weren't there for a peaceful thing

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hey gary uh is the microphone on your

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the microphone just a little bit because

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sometimes you're it's not it's missing

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you i have another set i can try

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that that that that's better that's

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about going to the capitol afterwards so

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uh if it was weren't prepared by reading

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um so there just wasn't much

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in the past have been peaceful they they

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history a history of violence like some

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analogies for that but

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his followers that have they have become

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but the gun was already loaded if you

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the speech i wasn't

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feeling good at the time in fact this uh

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maybe one of the few

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podcasts conducted by someone positive

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for covet i'm pretty sure i have covered

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and about nine out of ten it got it it's

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basically just been like a common cold

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i jumped ahead of the line for the

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vaccine is the way i like to think about

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um but anyway so i i was watching it and

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typical trump speech that kind of goes

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this many people under 21 who voted et

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business and they had a split screen one

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showing the crowd one showing trump

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so it wasn't a rousing speech by any

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trial by combat whatever the hell he

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because congress is about to vote to

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the troops per se

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gotten otherwise and be prepared for

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backlash and riots in the street with

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since summer uh when there's

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actually starts out as peaceful protests

290
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that's being objective

291
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then suddenly it turns south there's a

292
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group that

293
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breaks away groups into stores still

294
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stuff it's an opportunistic

295
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ants to do what otherwise you'd be

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caught for

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so this is not unusual that you would

298
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have a fraction

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kind of break away and do their thing

300
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while you have probably 90 some odd

301
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percent

302
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just standing there yeah so what's

303
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interesting is it looked like the

304
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perimeter

305
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of the capitol was closed

306
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and i don't know what is typical i i've

307
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been

308
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usually the capital is open i thought to

309
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visitors at least to a certain number of

310
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visitors

311
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yeah but it's hard to get in that door

312
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and if you don't have the right id or a

313
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tag you're not getting that

314
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um if a tourist wanted to go into the

315
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capitol what's the problem yes

316
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you'd have to go through a process

317
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yourself you'd have to have an id

318
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you don't just walk in you'd have to

319
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call ahead make arrangements

320
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um and be accepted uh so they would ask

321
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you what's your id

322
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you know um let's check and so

323
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um would you say the perimeter being um

324
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cordoned off you know i mean as much as

325
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at least 100 yards away from the

326
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building itself is pretty common

327
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yeah but it's nothing i mean it's

328
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nothing it's just

329
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some people call it a snow fence you can

330
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pick it up move it so it's not really

331
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for riots uh or protesters it's just

332
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some

333
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front line perimeter uh obstacle

334
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but it's not designed for this in fact

335
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they've been putting up a much larger

336
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sense around it now

337
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it's very common correct me from wrong

338
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you know the

339
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million man march and martin luther

340
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king's famous

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march and so forth i mean all of that

342
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happens

343
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on what they call the mall right which

344
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leads directly to the capitol

345
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right and that's where the inauguration

346
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will be yes

347
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and so for instance when we all

348
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envisioned the martin luther king speech

349
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is that essentially the same location as

350
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where biden's going to be

351
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speaking from it sounds like it it

352
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sounds like you know they usually have

353
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it

354
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already putting up you know the benches

355
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and all of that

356
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and so they're already there and that's

357
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why they're putting up the extra fencing

358
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and i guarantee that they'll be national

359
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guard on standby there'll be

360
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you know a lot more security this time

361
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so you can

362
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have an event there but it's probably

363
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got to be reserved months in advance and

364
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all kinds of scrutiny and there's going

365
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to be

366
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um metal detectors and all kinds of

367
00:13:18,790 --> 00:13:16,800
stuff yeah you don't just walk in

368
00:13:20,550 --> 00:13:18,800
so that's really the the difference here

369
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as far as people saying oh

370
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capitol police you know

371
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had their guard down or whatever i mean

372
00:13:26,949 --> 00:13:26,639
yeah they had their guard down but you

373
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know

374
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part of the reason was there was not an

375
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event planned for that location

376
00:13:35,990 --> 00:13:34,800
yeah i uh one thing i can't find is how

377
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much was announced

378
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about walking to the capitol

379
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obviously it was in the speech and we

380
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came here to march

381
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but um there's not much about this

382
00:13:51,269 --> 00:13:49,440
so well and that's something this hasn't

383
00:13:52,069 --> 00:13:51,279
come up before but maybe that's another

384
00:13:54,949 --> 00:13:52,079
way in which

385
00:13:56,470 --> 00:13:54,959
trump actually should be faulted is that

386
00:13:58,790 --> 00:13:56,480
he should know better

387
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than to tell people to go march to the

388
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capitol when you don't have a permit to

389
00:14:03,350 --> 00:14:01,440
be

390
00:14:05,350 --> 00:14:03,360
hanging out 250 000 people at the

391
00:14:09,590 --> 00:14:05,360
capitol i mean his

392
00:14:13,189 --> 00:14:09,600
in the way he spoke was good

393
00:14:16,710 --> 00:14:13,199
but it was missing logic to be honest

394
00:14:20,470 --> 00:14:16,720
i'm just again being objective um

395
00:14:24,230 --> 00:14:20,480
you don't tell a group that size that

396
00:14:25,910 --> 00:14:24,240
go to the capitol walk to the capitol

397
00:14:27,670 --> 00:14:25,920
he said i'll walk with you which

398
00:14:32,230 --> 00:14:27,680
obviously do

399
00:14:36,230 --> 00:14:32,240
um and voice your concern

400
00:14:39,829 --> 00:14:36,240
support some senators who are trying to

401
00:14:41,030 --> 00:14:39,839
um i won't say overturned but trying to

402
00:14:42,710 --> 00:14:41,040
object

403
00:14:44,470 --> 00:14:42,720
the electoral college's votes around

404
00:14:47,670 --> 00:14:44,480
those five states

405
00:14:49,430 --> 00:14:47,680
show them your support uh but

406
00:14:51,670 --> 00:14:49,440
we're not going to support some of the

407
00:14:55,670 --> 00:14:51,680
senators that we meet

408
00:14:58,710 --> 00:14:55,680
yeah and so there was a message there

409
00:14:59,430 --> 00:14:58,720
and you know people went to show their

410
00:15:02,150 --> 00:14:59,440
support

411
00:15:03,910 --> 00:15:02,160
but some did a lot more than that yeah i

412
00:15:05,750 --> 00:15:03,920
mean it's arguably

413
00:15:08,230 --> 00:15:05,760
i don't know the rules of dc but it

414
00:15:10,310 --> 00:15:08,240
could even be an unlawful gathering

415
00:15:11,829 --> 00:15:10,320
it could be right to have hundreds of

416
00:15:13,430 --> 00:15:11,839
thousands of people go to the capitol

417
00:15:15,269 --> 00:15:13,440
when they have not

418
00:15:17,110 --> 00:15:15,279
made any application for any

419
00:15:19,509 --> 00:15:17,120
demonstration at the capitol

420
00:15:20,790 --> 00:15:19,519
if they didn't i don't know that for

421
00:15:22,870 --> 00:15:20,800
sure

422
00:15:24,230 --> 00:15:22,880
yeah uh there could have been a permit

423
00:15:25,829 --> 00:15:24,240
there could have been

424
00:15:28,310 --> 00:15:25,839
so there's still a lot of questions

425
00:15:31,670 --> 00:15:28,320
about this since it's so new

426
00:15:35,350 --> 00:15:31,680
um but the one thing i will say

427
00:15:37,350 --> 00:15:35,360
is nothing has been solved

428
00:15:39,110 --> 00:15:37,360
it's unfortunate there was loss of life

429
00:15:41,990 --> 00:15:39,120
very unfortunate

430
00:15:43,509 --> 00:15:42,000
should have been avoided um but the

431
00:15:46,949 --> 00:15:43,519
vitriol

432
00:15:49,350 --> 00:15:46,959
and everything and um

433
00:15:49,990 --> 00:15:49,360
all the way through you know trying to

434
00:15:59,110 --> 00:15:50,000
uh

435
00:16:02,470 --> 00:15:59,120
run again so there's a

436
00:16:04,790 --> 00:16:02,480
there's a lot going on um nothing's

437
00:16:08,389 --> 00:16:04,800
really been settled

438
00:16:10,150 --> 00:16:08,399
and unless this stops we're going to see

439
00:16:13,430 --> 00:16:10,160
continued

440
00:16:16,310 --> 00:16:13,440
protests and violence

441
00:16:17,990 --> 00:16:16,320
yeah yeah the the response to it has

442
00:16:21,110 --> 00:16:18,000
arguably been as bad as

443
00:16:23,030 --> 00:16:21,120
the event itself yes media of course

444
00:16:24,710 --> 00:16:23,040
anything that trump does they overreact

445
00:16:27,030 --> 00:16:24,720
to it and uh

446
00:16:27,990 --> 00:16:27,040
try to take advantage of it in every way

447
00:16:29,749 --> 00:16:28,000
that they can but

448
00:16:31,189 --> 00:16:29,759
uh yeah the fact that this being an

449
00:16:32,790 --> 00:16:31,199
impeachable offense seems

450
00:16:34,790 --> 00:16:32,800
absurd to me and then of course taking

451
00:16:38,550 --> 00:16:34,800
off twitter is absurd you know

452
00:16:39,269 --> 00:16:38,560
suppressing speech and uh 75 million

453
00:16:43,590 --> 00:16:39,279
people

454
00:16:46,710 --> 00:16:43,600
for him that's not going to end well

455
00:16:50,310 --> 00:16:46,720
if no that's the idea no it's not

456
00:16:53,590 --> 00:16:50,320
it's just anti-american the whole

457
00:16:53,910 --> 00:16:53,600
response to this and like i said like i

458
00:16:56,150 --> 00:16:53,920
said

459
00:16:57,590 --> 00:16:56,160
whether you're left or right you know

460
00:16:59,509 --> 00:16:57,600
that

461
00:17:01,269 --> 00:16:59,519
but one side's just been a lot more

462
00:17:04,069 --> 00:17:01,279
vocal about it than the other one

463
00:17:04,630 --> 00:17:04,079
and that's not picking sides it's just

464
00:17:07,909 --> 00:17:04,640
saying

465
00:17:09,909 --> 00:17:07,919
you know one side still

466
00:17:12,069 --> 00:17:09,919
wants to correct what they think was

467
00:17:15,590 --> 00:17:12,079
wrong the other side just

468
00:17:17,510 --> 00:17:15,600
wants to punish and move on

469
00:17:19,270 --> 00:17:17,520
that's basically what's driving both

470
00:17:21,189 --> 00:17:19,280
sides very different

471
00:17:22,949 --> 00:17:21,199
well we and we've had extreme now

472
00:17:23,669 --> 00:17:22,959
violence on both sides of the political

473
00:17:26,069 --> 00:17:23,679
aisle

474
00:17:27,669 --> 00:17:26,079
here it's it's you know we had a summer

475
00:17:29,350 --> 00:17:27,679
full of black lives matter and antifa

476
00:17:31,990 --> 00:17:29,360
violence and now we've had uh

477
00:17:33,830 --> 00:17:32,000
trump supporter violence and you know

478
00:17:36,950 --> 00:17:33,840
the shoe is on the other foot

479
00:17:39,590 --> 00:17:36,960
for both sides yes so

480
00:17:41,270 --> 00:17:39,600
for all the people that's that defended

481
00:17:43,029 --> 00:17:41,280
antifa and things say oh well it was

482
00:17:44,230 --> 00:17:43,039
just a few bad apples they were mostly

483
00:17:45,750 --> 00:17:44,240
peaceful protests

484
00:17:47,430 --> 00:17:45,760
right well now trump supporters are

485
00:17:49,190 --> 00:17:47,440
saying the same thing it was just a few

486
00:17:52,470 --> 00:17:49,200
bad apples it was mostly a peaceful

487
00:17:54,310 --> 00:17:52,480
protest and now all of a sudden the left

488
00:17:57,029 --> 00:17:54,320
is on the side of the police and is very

489
00:17:58,230 --> 00:17:57,039
upset that what happened to the police

490
00:18:00,310 --> 00:17:58,240
and they're the ones that wanted to

491
00:18:03,669 --> 00:18:00,320
defund the police before right

492
00:18:06,310 --> 00:18:03,679
and there's no you know at this point

493
00:18:06,870 --> 00:18:06,320
honestly both sides should be talking

494
00:18:10,390 --> 00:18:06,880
about

495
00:18:12,310 --> 00:18:10,400
unity it's become almost a joke term

496
00:18:14,070 --> 00:18:12,320
there's nothing about okay let's have

497
00:18:17,430 --> 00:18:14,080
peace let's start

498
00:18:18,870 --> 00:18:17,440
new let's work together all the things

499
00:18:22,630 --> 00:18:18,880
that should be

500
00:18:26,230 --> 00:18:22,640
happening quiet this down unfortunately

501
00:18:29,510 --> 00:18:26,240
just not occurring and so we're seeing

502
00:18:30,630 --> 00:18:29,520
like rabid speech that's going to keep

503
00:18:33,029 --> 00:18:30,640
this going

504
00:18:34,310 --> 00:18:33,039
in one way or another yeah it's like

505
00:18:36,150 --> 00:18:34,320
know when you've

506
00:18:38,150 --> 00:18:36,160
won yeah you know if you're the

507
00:18:39,190 --> 00:18:38,160
democrats you have won you've got the

508
00:18:41,270 --> 00:18:39,200
senate

509
00:18:43,029 --> 00:18:41,280
you got the presidency right trump is

510
00:18:45,830 --> 00:18:43,039
pretty disgraced

511
00:18:46,150 --> 00:18:45,840
and now they want to dance on his grave

512
00:18:49,830 --> 00:18:46,160
and

513
00:18:50,470 --> 00:18:49,840
where they're going to just take this

514
00:18:52,390 --> 00:18:50,480
too far

515
00:18:53,909 --> 00:18:52,400
you know they've got a beautiful win

516
00:18:54,789 --> 00:18:53,919
right now where trump is leaving in

517
00:18:56,789 --> 00:18:54,799
disgrace

518
00:18:58,390 --> 00:18:56,799
not even attending the inauguration

519
00:19:01,510 --> 00:18:58,400
which i think makes him look

520
00:19:05,190 --> 00:19:01,520
bad to not attend the inauguration so

521
00:19:08,230 --> 00:19:05,200
you know let it be and be magnanimous

522
00:19:10,230 --> 00:19:08,240
and and run with it but you know biden

523
00:19:11,990 --> 00:19:10,240
doesn't seem to have the strength

524
00:19:13,990 --> 00:19:12,000
to have his own voice because here's an

525
00:19:16,310 --> 00:19:14,000
opportunity where he could

526
00:19:17,110 --> 00:19:16,320
step out in front of all those

527
00:19:20,549 --> 00:19:17,120
passionate

528
00:19:22,310 --> 00:19:20,559
people and say enough is enough but he's

529
00:19:25,510 --> 00:19:22,320
not doing it in fact

530
00:19:26,070 --> 00:19:25,520
instead he fanned the flames yes by

531
00:19:28,470 --> 00:19:26,080
saying

532
00:19:30,630 --> 00:19:28,480
that oh don't tell me if this had been a

533
00:19:32,070 --> 00:19:30,640
black lives matter protest that this

534
00:19:35,190 --> 00:19:32,080
wouldn't have

535
00:19:37,190 --> 00:19:35,200
gone down differently and

536
00:19:38,230 --> 00:19:37,200
in the last four years have been hell

537
00:19:40,750 --> 00:19:38,240
basically

538
00:19:42,150 --> 00:19:40,760
right yeah i mean you're that you're the

539
00:19:43,669 --> 00:19:42,160
president-elect

540
00:19:45,430 --> 00:19:43,679
right you've got all these racial

541
00:19:48,230 --> 00:19:45,440
tensions and you just

542
00:19:49,590 --> 00:19:48,240
fan the racial tensions and by the way

543
00:19:52,070 --> 00:19:49,600
with kind of

544
00:19:52,789 --> 00:19:52,080
an absurd argument i mean one thing that

545
00:20:08,950 --> 00:19:52,799
i

546
00:20:11,750 --> 00:20:08,960
shot

547
00:20:12,390 --> 00:20:11,760
and could see it going through the glass

548
00:20:16,310 --> 00:20:12,400
if

549
00:20:20,470 --> 00:20:16,320
shooting a

550
00:20:22,789 --> 00:20:20,480
black black lives matter protester

551
00:20:23,909 --> 00:20:22,799
our cities would be burning to the

552
00:20:27,110 --> 00:20:23,919
ground right now

553
00:20:29,110 --> 00:20:27,120
absolutely and he wants to say that this

554
00:20:31,350 --> 00:20:29,120
crowd was treated special

555
00:20:33,430 --> 00:20:31,360
because they were white instead of black

556
00:20:34,630 --> 00:20:33,440
yeah that just i mean there's just a lot

557
00:20:37,029 --> 00:20:34,640
of

558
00:20:38,070 --> 00:20:37,039
bad statements occurring that are you

559
00:20:41,669 --> 00:20:38,080
know we've had that all

560
00:20:43,669 --> 00:20:41,679
year honestly uh even going back to the

561
00:20:46,470 --> 00:20:43,679
riots

562
00:20:49,110 --> 00:20:46,480
i remember uh one of the newscasters

563
00:20:52,230 --> 00:20:49,120
standing in front of a burning building

564
00:20:52,789 --> 00:20:52,240
saying this is peaceful right so you

565
00:20:54,549 --> 00:20:52,799
know

566
00:20:57,350 --> 00:20:54,559
there hasn't been real accurate

567
00:20:59,750 --> 00:20:57,360
reporting say the least

568
00:21:02,070 --> 00:20:59,760
and it's all been looked at as peaceful

569
00:21:03,590 --> 00:21:02,080
protests in the past people know better

570
00:21:05,750 --> 00:21:03,600
than that

571
00:21:08,230 --> 00:21:05,760
but when it comes like you said okay

572
00:21:11,430 --> 00:21:08,240
that she's on the other foot now

573
00:21:13,830 --> 00:21:11,440
and we want those people prosecuted

574
00:21:15,110 --> 00:21:13,840
inside that capital they have to be

575
00:21:17,270 --> 00:21:15,120
there has to be

576
00:21:19,110 --> 00:21:17,280
an example made of them and they deserve

577
00:21:21,110 --> 00:21:19,120
to be prosecuted

578
00:21:24,630 --> 00:21:21,120
but you know what if you're this young

579
00:21:26,470 --> 00:21:24,640
lady 18-year air force veteran

580
00:21:28,149 --> 00:21:26,480
why is she in their break trying to

581
00:21:31,430 --> 00:21:28,159
break through it

582
00:21:32,789 --> 00:21:31,440
to get the descent i mean that's when

583
00:21:35,830 --> 00:21:32,799
you do get shot

584
00:21:37,029 --> 00:21:35,840
that they have to protect the congress

585
00:21:38,390 --> 00:21:37,039
they have to protect them

586
00:21:40,390 --> 00:21:38,400
just like the secret service has to

587
00:21:41,909 --> 00:21:40,400
protect the president

588
00:21:45,029 --> 00:21:41,919
and if people are coming through that

589
00:21:47,029 --> 00:21:45,039
door and those congressmen and women are

590
00:21:50,230 --> 00:21:47,039
still in there and the senators

591
00:21:51,190 --> 00:21:50,240
they have no choice they have to protect

592
00:21:53,510 --> 00:21:51,200
them

593
00:21:54,870 --> 00:21:53,520
and so so so do you think speaking of

594
00:21:57,830 --> 00:21:54,880
that particular incident

595
00:21:59,430 --> 00:21:57,840
um do you think that i think the police

596
00:22:01,430 --> 00:21:59,440
officer has been suspended but

597
00:22:02,870 --> 00:22:01,440
would you imagine that he's going to

598
00:22:04,789 --> 00:22:02,880
seek or

599
00:22:05,990 --> 00:22:04,799
receive punishment or or you think he

600
00:22:07,270 --> 00:22:06,000
acted appropriately

601
00:22:09,350 --> 00:22:07,280
i don't think he's going to receive

602
00:22:11,909 --> 00:22:09,360
punishment i think that

603
00:22:12,470 --> 00:22:11,919
they were coming through the door he did

604
00:22:15,510 --> 00:22:12,480
what he

605
00:22:19,029 --> 00:22:15,520
had to do it's unfortunate

606
00:22:19,830 --> 00:22:19,039
it's a tragedy but what else is he going

607
00:22:21,750 --> 00:22:19,840
to do

608
00:22:22,870 --> 00:22:21,760
but all of the crowd through to get to

609
00:22:26,149 --> 00:22:22,880
the congress people

610
00:22:28,950 --> 00:22:26,159
he can't do that i think he could have

611
00:22:33,110 --> 00:22:28,960
handled it differently

612
00:22:35,990 --> 00:22:33,120
even some warning shots you know even

613
00:22:37,190 --> 00:22:36,000
showing the force and why weren't they

614
00:22:39,669 --> 00:22:37,200
protected

615
00:22:40,390 --> 00:22:39,679
i'm talking about the law enforcement

616
00:22:43,830 --> 00:22:40,400
with

617
00:22:46,070 --> 00:22:43,840
tear gas pepper spray you know

618
00:22:47,990 --> 00:22:46,080
why not spray tear gas and pepper spray

619
00:22:50,070 --> 00:22:48,000
through that window

620
00:22:52,310 --> 00:22:50,080
keep those people away in fact i'm

621
00:22:54,549 --> 00:22:52,320
surprised we don't have

622
00:22:55,909 --> 00:22:54,559
canisters of pepper spray and tear gas

623
00:22:58,950 --> 00:22:55,919
around the capital

624
00:23:03,190 --> 00:22:58,960
just in case a group gets unruly

625
00:23:06,950 --> 00:23:03,200
so i think the security

626
00:23:10,230 --> 00:23:06,960
process needs a strong investigation

627
00:23:14,549 --> 00:23:10,240
um it's not to put police

628
00:23:15,590 --> 00:23:14,559
uh in jail but they were overwhelmed

629
00:23:17,430 --> 00:23:15,600
and they should not have been

630
00:23:18,710 --> 00:23:17,440
overwhelmed that should have been

631
00:23:20,549 --> 00:23:18,720
adequately planned

632
00:23:23,029 --> 00:23:20,559
if you can't call law enforcement

633
00:23:26,149 --> 00:23:23,039
together at the last minute

634
00:23:27,909 --> 00:23:26,159
we have a problem yeah well my my

635
00:23:30,470 --> 00:23:27,919
attitude is

636
00:23:32,470 --> 00:23:30,480
she shouldn't have been killed but i

637
00:23:35,190 --> 00:23:32,480
don't have much sympathy for her

638
00:23:37,430 --> 00:23:35,200
because when you do stupid things like

639
00:23:40,230 --> 00:23:37,440
that

640
00:23:40,710 --> 00:23:40,240
as a policeman is pointing a gun at you

641
00:23:42,870 --> 00:23:40,720
yes

642
00:23:44,789 --> 00:23:42,880
uh you take your life in your own hands

643
00:23:47,590 --> 00:23:44,799
and it's the same thing that i've said

644
00:23:48,710 --> 00:23:47,600
regarding a lot of the you know

645
00:23:50,230 --> 00:23:48,720
incidents that have

646
00:23:51,669 --> 00:23:50,240
been so polarizing over the summer and

647
00:23:52,230 --> 00:23:51,679
so on the george floyd kind of stuff and

648
00:23:54,230 --> 00:23:52,240
so on

649
00:23:55,350 --> 00:23:54,240
it's that you know the thing shouldn't

650
00:23:57,510 --> 00:23:55,360
have happened to the person

651
00:23:58,470 --> 00:23:57,520
but then again they put themselves in

652
00:24:00,470 --> 00:23:58,480
that situation

653
00:24:03,190 --> 00:24:00,480
you're supposed to do whatever the hell

654
00:24:04,789 --> 00:24:03,200
the police tell you to do period

655
00:24:06,310 --> 00:24:04,799
and when you don't you take your life

656
00:24:09,590 --> 00:24:06,320
into your own hands and that's

657
00:24:11,430 --> 00:24:09,600
that's what she did and um

658
00:24:13,110 --> 00:24:11,440
you know she got caught up in what they

659
00:24:15,510 --> 00:24:13,120
call the mob mentality

660
00:24:16,549 --> 00:24:15,520
which i think a lot of the people did i

661
00:24:18,870 --> 00:24:16,559
don't know

662
00:24:19,669 --> 00:24:18,880
tell us based on all of your studies and

663
00:24:22,149 --> 00:24:19,679
so on about

664
00:24:23,029 --> 00:24:22,159
mob mentality and what happens to people

665
00:24:24,549 --> 00:24:23,039
when they get

666
00:24:26,230 --> 00:24:24,559
caught up in the fervor of something

667
00:24:27,830 --> 00:24:26,240
like like what happened

668
00:24:30,230 --> 00:24:27,840
well a lot of people don't understand

669
00:24:33,350 --> 00:24:30,240
what a mob is first of all

670
00:24:36,149 --> 00:24:33,360
so it's not a group of people

671
00:24:37,830 --> 00:24:36,159
a mob is when a group and it could be a

672
00:24:38,870 --> 00:24:37,840
small group it can be two or three

673
00:24:45,350 --> 00:24:38,880
people

674
00:24:48,549 --> 00:24:45,360
suddenly have intent

675
00:24:50,070 --> 00:24:48,559
to harm or cause damage

676
00:24:51,909 --> 00:24:50,080
now you're talking about a mob as

677
00:24:54,950 --> 00:24:51,919
opposed to a

678
00:24:58,310 --> 00:24:54,960
oh there's a there's a switch over

679
00:25:01,669 --> 00:24:58,320
with intent if the intent is there

680
00:25:04,950 --> 00:25:01,679
for example if we had a group of people

681
00:25:09,190 --> 00:25:04,960
arming the capital they were planning

682
00:25:12,149 --> 00:25:09,200
to cause damage and harm that's a mob

683
00:25:12,830 --> 00:25:12,159
the 300 000 that were going there to

684
00:25:15,990 --> 00:25:12,840
mark

685
00:25:18,710 --> 00:25:16,000
peacefully and to show concern

686
00:25:19,590 --> 00:25:18,720
that's not a mob that's that's a protest

687
00:25:23,269 --> 00:25:19,600
group

688
00:25:25,029 --> 00:25:23,279
so when you have a mob they often get

689
00:25:28,390 --> 00:25:25,039
out of control

690
00:25:29,029 --> 00:25:28,400
um there's not much restraint to stop

691
00:25:31,590 --> 00:25:29,039
them

692
00:25:33,830 --> 00:25:31,600
and you kind of feed off of one another

693
00:25:36,789 --> 00:25:33,840
you know you know who each other

694
00:25:38,070 --> 00:25:36,799
are and look at me i'm going over the

695
00:25:39,350 --> 00:25:38,080
fence look at me well i've got to go

696
00:25:41,430 --> 00:25:39,360
over the fence too

697
00:25:43,350 --> 00:25:41,440
i've got a break in the door with me too

698
00:25:46,549 --> 00:25:43,360
let's keep going let's keep going

699
00:25:49,669 --> 00:25:46,559
so it kind of has self-fueling

700
00:25:51,990 --> 00:25:49,679
um it just kind of feeds on itself

701
00:25:55,350 --> 00:25:52,000
and there might not be a plan other than

702
00:26:00,549 --> 00:25:55,360
i'm gonna cause damage

703
00:26:05,190 --> 00:26:03,430
capital because in everybody it was a

704
00:26:08,390 --> 00:26:05,200
significant group

705
00:26:10,390 --> 00:26:08,400
big enough to overwhelm security and to

706
00:26:11,990 --> 00:26:10,400
get into these offices i mean

707
00:26:14,149 --> 00:26:12,000
the picture of the guy with his foot up

708
00:26:15,750 --> 00:26:14,159
on nancy pelosi's desk

709
00:26:17,830 --> 00:26:15,760
you know the guy carrying out the

710
00:26:20,390 --> 00:26:17,840
speaker's podium

711
00:26:21,990 --> 00:26:20,400
um those people weren't there by

712
00:26:23,909 --> 00:26:22,000
accident

713
00:26:25,830 --> 00:26:23,919
that's you know that's a plan to go in

714
00:26:28,310 --> 00:26:25,840
and cause havoc

715
00:26:28,950 --> 00:26:28,320
and i don't think that's what trump was

716
00:26:32,390 --> 00:26:28,960
saying

717
00:26:35,430 --> 00:26:32,400
i went over his transcripts three times

718
00:26:37,190 --> 00:26:35,440
um there's nothing in there to incite

719
00:26:38,870 --> 00:26:37,200
riot

720
00:26:40,230 --> 00:26:38,880
uh there's nothing in there that says go

721
00:26:43,110 --> 00:26:40,240
up the airplane cause

722
00:26:46,149 --> 00:26:43,120
damage the worst that's in there is make

723
00:26:50,149 --> 00:26:48,310
yeah in fact i i i wrote down a quote

724
00:26:51,430 --> 00:26:50,159
peacefully make your voices heard he

725
00:26:52,870 --> 00:26:51,440
actually says

726
00:26:54,789 --> 00:26:52,880
i have the same quote you know

727
00:26:58,149 --> 00:26:54,799
peacefully and patriotically

728
00:27:03,110 --> 00:26:58,159
right uh make your voices heard and

729
00:27:05,269 --> 00:27:03,120
so it's not an incitement to riot

730
00:27:06,630 --> 00:27:05,279
but i can't call it good judgment at the

731
00:27:08,470 --> 00:27:06,640
same time

732
00:27:10,710 --> 00:27:08,480
yeah i think we've identified in this

733
00:27:14,070 --> 00:27:10,720
discussion sending people to the capitol

734
00:27:15,190 --> 00:27:14,080
bad idea um especially if there was no

735
00:27:18,470 --> 00:27:15,200
permits for that

736
00:27:20,230 --> 00:27:18,480
right and then also a quote that i have

737
00:27:23,510 --> 00:27:20,240
written down that's not from the speech

738
00:27:25,269 --> 00:27:23,520
but that's from trump repeatedly saying

739
00:27:28,389 --> 00:27:25,279
things like the only way we

740
00:27:30,710 --> 00:27:28,399
lose is if it is rigged right

741
00:27:32,149 --> 00:27:30,720
right so if and if you've managed to

742
00:27:35,110 --> 00:27:32,159
convince your followers

743
00:27:35,909 --> 00:27:35,120
of that then these followers now are

744
00:27:38,630 --> 00:27:35,919
going to feel

745
00:27:40,630 --> 00:27:38,640
that well this is stolen and this is the

746
00:27:42,630 --> 00:27:40,640
type of thing that our founders

747
00:27:44,310 --> 00:27:42,640
told us about this is the reason why we

748
00:27:47,510 --> 00:27:44,320
have a right to bear arms

749
00:27:48,630 --> 00:27:47,520
right is if if tyranny takes over our

750
00:27:51,830 --> 00:27:48,640
government

751
00:27:53,669 --> 00:27:51,840
and brings to power someone who

752
00:27:56,950 --> 00:27:53,679
shouldn't be brought to power right

753
00:27:59,190 --> 00:27:56,960
correct that's absolutely correct and i

754
00:28:01,350 --> 00:27:59,200
think that

755
00:28:02,230 --> 00:28:01,360
i'm not sure we can say everybody is as

756
00:28:05,269 --> 00:28:02,240
knowledgeable

757
00:28:07,110 --> 00:28:05,279
as some you know

758
00:28:09,669 --> 00:28:07,120
uh if you're a supporter and you're

759
00:28:12,230 --> 00:28:09,679
there and your focus is trump

760
00:28:14,070 --> 00:28:12,240
and you're not you might not be aware of

761
00:28:16,549 --> 00:28:14,080
all the history and

762
00:28:17,190 --> 00:28:16,559
all the vitriol but you know that you're

763
00:28:20,070 --> 00:28:17,200
there to

764
00:28:20,710 --> 00:28:20,080
support him and if he says let's march

765
00:28:23,909 --> 00:28:20,720
to the con

766
00:28:26,470 --> 00:28:23,919
let's march to the capitol you almost

767
00:28:28,310 --> 00:28:26,480
feel obligated to do that

768
00:28:30,630 --> 00:28:28,320
because the man is saying let's march

769
00:28:33,430 --> 00:28:30,640
the capitol and so

770
00:28:34,549 --> 00:28:33,440
but that's a that's a long way away from

771
00:28:37,590 --> 00:28:34,559
let's break in

772
00:28:40,870 --> 00:28:37,600
cause damage and steal things

773
00:28:43,990 --> 00:28:40,880
and hurt people so

774
00:28:47,350 --> 00:28:44,000
that part's missing from what he said

775
00:28:49,669 --> 00:28:47,360
um and that's where the mob

776
00:28:51,590 --> 00:28:49,679
i would call it kind of took over and

777
00:28:54,870 --> 00:28:51,600
that's what we're seeing on tv

778
00:28:56,310 --> 00:28:54,880
is a mob so as you look closely at some

779
00:28:58,310 --> 00:28:56,320
of the video and saw

780
00:28:59,830 --> 00:28:58,320
the people who were on the front lines

781
00:29:02,389 --> 00:28:59,840
of battling the police and

782
00:29:03,830 --> 00:29:02,399
breaking down barriers and so on and saw

783
00:29:06,950 --> 00:29:03,840
what they were armed with and

784
00:29:08,630 --> 00:29:06,960
saw their tactics what does it tell you

785
00:29:11,110 --> 00:29:08,640
about those people

786
00:29:12,789 --> 00:29:11,120
i think that being on the front line is

787
00:29:16,549 --> 00:29:12,799
important

788
00:29:18,549 --> 00:29:16,559
to them and i think that um

789
00:29:20,310 --> 00:29:18,559
they were there for a purpose that went

790
00:29:24,310 --> 00:29:20,320
beyond

791
00:29:26,230 --> 00:29:24,320
peaceful um and patriotic

792
00:29:27,909 --> 00:29:26,240
do you have any doubt that those people

793
00:29:29,669 --> 00:29:27,919
that i'm talking about woke up that

794
00:29:31,430 --> 00:29:29,679
morning

795
00:29:32,710 --> 00:29:31,440
knowing that they were going to be

796
00:29:34,149 --> 00:29:32,720
attempting to break into the capital

797
00:29:36,710 --> 00:29:34,159
later

798
00:29:38,470 --> 00:29:36,720
i can't put a number on it i would say

799
00:29:42,870 --> 00:29:38,480
some

800
00:29:43,669 --> 00:29:42,880
probably jumped in this is a perfect

801
00:29:46,630 --> 00:29:43,679
time to

802
00:29:48,389 --> 00:29:46,640
do this i think some got caught up in it

803
00:29:50,710 --> 00:29:48,399
it does happen

804
00:29:53,110 --> 00:29:50,720
uh you can be an innocent bystander and

805
00:29:57,269 --> 00:29:53,120
suddenly i'm going to join this crowd

806
00:29:59,909 --> 00:29:57,279
like the unfortunate young lady who got

807
00:30:01,430 --> 00:29:59,919
killed i don't think she woke up that

808
00:30:03,350 --> 00:30:01,440
morning and said i'm going to break into

809
00:30:06,549 --> 00:30:03,360
the capitol

810
00:30:08,549 --> 00:30:06,559
but she's a good example maybe of one

811
00:30:11,350 --> 00:30:08,559
who got caught up

812
00:30:13,830 --> 00:30:11,360
in the excitement and wanted to get in

813
00:30:17,590 --> 00:30:13,840
and voice her support

814
00:30:20,870 --> 00:30:17,600
um to the congress so

815
00:30:22,950 --> 00:30:20,880
that happens sometimes they go beyond

816
00:30:23,909 --> 00:30:22,960
self-control they're caught up in the

817
00:30:28,230 --> 00:30:23,919
group

818
00:30:31,269 --> 00:30:28,240
and it's mob mentality

819
00:30:34,310 --> 00:30:31,279
so some mobs have follow-on

820
00:30:37,190 --> 00:30:34,320
people that might not be part of the

821
00:30:39,190 --> 00:30:37,200
actual mob they just get caught up in it

822
00:30:42,310 --> 00:30:39,200
and they're just as much

823
00:30:43,990 --> 00:30:42,320
aim as itself

824
00:30:45,990 --> 00:30:44,000
all right hold up your microphone a

825
00:30:49,590 --> 00:30:46,000
little bit more gary okay

826
00:30:52,710 --> 00:30:49,600
yeah uh what about antifa

827
00:30:55,750 --> 00:30:52,720
do you believe that they were there

828
00:30:59,110 --> 00:30:55,760
yes and what do you base that on

829
00:31:01,029 --> 00:30:59,120
i do it based on um them finding pipe

830
00:31:06,310 --> 00:31:01,039
bombs

831
00:31:10,149 --> 00:31:06,320
found in the past

832
00:31:12,149 --> 00:31:10,159
some of the other materials

833
00:31:13,750 --> 00:31:12,159
i think they i think they found a gun i

834
00:31:15,110 --> 00:31:13,760
was trying to find more information on

835
00:31:18,950 --> 00:31:15,120
that

836
00:31:22,070 --> 00:31:18,960
the information so it's very strong

837
00:31:24,310 --> 00:31:22,080
for the mob itself inside

838
00:31:26,389 --> 00:31:24,320
all kinds of stuff all kinds of videos

839
00:31:27,430 --> 00:31:26,399
but finding more information about the

840
00:31:30,950 --> 00:31:27,440
outside

841
00:31:33,509 --> 00:31:30,960
what was going on were there more police

842
00:31:35,669 --> 00:31:33,519
very difficult to find that need a

843
00:31:38,710 --> 00:31:35,679
really good investigation of

844
00:31:41,029 --> 00:31:38,720
what's happening you yeah well the video

845
00:31:42,549 --> 00:31:41,039
though is so good um and we've already

846
00:31:43,110 --> 00:31:42,559
seen bits and pieces of it you got to

847
00:31:46,310 --> 00:31:43,120
assume

848
00:31:47,110 --> 00:31:46,320
so time will tell and you know if antifa

849
00:31:49,190 --> 00:31:47,120
was there

850
00:31:50,870 --> 00:31:49,200
we're going to know it seems we will

851
00:31:54,070 --> 00:31:50,880
know uh

852
00:31:55,909 --> 00:31:54,080
we have facial recognition those cameras

853
00:31:57,830 --> 00:31:55,919
are very clear

854
00:32:00,470 --> 00:31:57,840
anybody's face who popped up on that

855
00:32:01,750 --> 00:32:00,480
camera is likely to be identified

856
00:32:03,990 --> 00:32:01,760
you know they run checks against

857
00:32:05,590 --> 00:32:04,000
driver's licenses photos

858
00:32:07,350 --> 00:32:05,600
you know there are a lot of ways to

859
00:32:10,389 --> 00:32:07,360
identify people

860
00:32:13,110 --> 00:32:10,399
plus many have been arrested now

861
00:32:14,630 --> 00:32:13,120
you know how that works you know look

862
00:32:15,190 --> 00:32:14,640
you know we'll give you a little bit of

863
00:32:17,029 --> 00:32:15,200
a deal

864
00:32:18,310 --> 00:32:17,039
if you tell us who these three people

865
00:32:21,430 --> 00:32:18,320
are you know

866
00:32:24,310 --> 00:32:21,440
so it's going to happen where most of

867
00:32:26,070 --> 00:32:24,320
the people are going to be identified

868
00:32:27,750 --> 00:32:26,080
they're already identifying them you

869
00:32:29,350 --> 00:32:27,760
know person

870
00:32:31,029 --> 00:32:29,360
with the foot on the desk the person

871
00:32:32,389 --> 00:32:31,039
carrying out the podium the person

872
00:32:35,430 --> 00:32:32,399
wearing the deer horns

873
00:32:38,149 --> 00:32:35,440
they already have them so um

874
00:32:39,190 --> 00:32:38,159
people tend to talk uh when they get

875
00:32:41,669 --> 00:32:39,200
caught

876
00:32:44,149 --> 00:32:41,679
and they have facial recognition so yeah

877
00:32:47,190 --> 00:32:44,159
all that speaks to how absurdly

878
00:32:49,909 --> 00:32:47,200
premature impeachment is

879
00:32:51,190 --> 00:32:49,919
when the investigation is still ongoing

880
00:32:54,950 --> 00:32:51,200
we may learn

881
00:32:57,269 --> 00:32:54,960
that this was a antifa plot

882
00:32:59,269 --> 00:32:57,279
and that 90 of the people who were on

883
00:33:01,110 --> 00:32:59,279
the front lines were antifa and

884
00:33:02,549 --> 00:33:01,120
and with the whole idea of sabotaging

885
00:33:04,789 --> 00:33:02,559
trump's uh

886
00:33:06,389 --> 00:33:04,799
rally i'm not saying that's going to

887
00:33:09,509 --> 00:33:06,399
happen but it's possible

888
00:33:11,590 --> 00:33:09,519
no absolutely i i hold that out as a

889
00:33:14,070 --> 00:33:11,600
strong possibility again

890
00:33:15,669 --> 00:33:14,080
there are opportunists i would call some

891
00:33:18,230 --> 00:33:15,679
of them in fifa

892
00:33:19,830 --> 00:33:18,240
uh who jump into that situation because

893
00:33:22,870 --> 00:33:19,840
it's a ready way

894
00:33:24,149 --> 00:33:22,880
to be included in the crowd and a good

895
00:33:27,269 --> 00:33:24,159
way to get in

896
00:33:29,909 --> 00:33:27,279
and once in you're in

897
00:33:30,789 --> 00:33:29,919
um you have any information on the um on

898
00:33:31,990 --> 00:33:30,799
the other desks

899
00:33:33,750 --> 00:33:32,000
it seems like there hasn't been that

900
00:33:35,269 --> 00:33:33,760
much disclosed we know about the woman

901
00:33:37,110 --> 00:33:35,279
yeah sean it's not really clear

902
00:33:39,029 --> 00:33:37,120
exactly how the officer died or the

903
00:33:40,789 --> 00:33:39,039
other three what i'm seeing

904
00:33:42,389 --> 00:33:40,799
and i actually look specifically for

905
00:33:45,029 --> 00:33:42,399
that

906
00:33:45,750 --> 00:33:45,039
the officer apparently got hit in the

907
00:33:49,190 --> 00:33:45,760
head

908
00:33:51,509 --> 00:33:49,200
with the fire um

909
00:33:52,310 --> 00:33:51,519
and he died extinguisher yes when he

910
00:33:58,870 --> 00:33:52,320
died

911
00:34:00,470 --> 00:33:58,880
other injuries that weren't related to

912
00:34:03,750 --> 00:34:00,480
the actual attack

913
00:34:05,830 --> 00:34:03,760
if we call it an attack or fall uh i

914
00:34:07,590 --> 00:34:05,840
for and i can't find because i expected

915
00:34:09,190 --> 00:34:07,600
it since i said other causes maybe heart

916
00:34:11,909 --> 00:34:09,200
attack or something like that

917
00:34:13,349 --> 00:34:11,919
but they can't find that's the kind of

918
00:34:14,950 --> 00:34:13,359
thing i'm talking about

919
00:34:16,389 --> 00:34:14,960
you can't find information on things

920
00:34:19,510 --> 00:34:16,399
that we should know

921
00:34:21,190 --> 00:34:19,520
but we have a lot of information on the

922
00:34:23,270 --> 00:34:21,200
riot itself

923
00:34:24,710 --> 00:34:23,280
yeah i mean the the three so you've said

924
00:34:26,550 --> 00:34:24,720
the police officer appears that he was

925
00:34:27,030 --> 00:34:26,560
attacked with a with a fire extinguisher

926
00:34:29,669 --> 00:34:27,040
i mean

927
00:34:30,149 --> 00:34:29,679
that person's could be tried for murder

928
00:34:33,430 --> 00:34:30,159
yes

929
00:34:34,149 --> 00:34:33,440
absolutely um the other three i mean

930
00:34:37,430 --> 00:34:34,159
were they

931
00:34:41,349 --> 00:34:37,440
hit by police officers i mean

932
00:34:44,550 --> 00:34:41,359
all i've seen honestly is it says um

933
00:34:46,149 --> 00:34:44,560
medical related causes

934
00:34:49,829 --> 00:34:46,159
that could be anything it could be a

935
00:34:51,829 --> 00:34:49,839
heart attack it could be you know

936
00:34:53,190 --> 00:34:51,839
anything so i hate to speculate on

937
00:34:55,510 --> 00:34:53,200
something like that

938
00:34:58,230 --> 00:34:55,520
but i will say it's very difficult to

939
00:34:59,349 --> 00:34:58,240
find that information right now

940
00:35:01,349 --> 00:34:59,359
[Music]

941
00:35:03,670 --> 00:35:01,359
i'm sure if i keep looking i'll find it

942
00:35:06,950 --> 00:35:03,680
but i did go back

943
00:35:08,870 --> 00:35:06,960
for this purpose uh of this radio show

944
00:35:10,069 --> 00:35:08,880
to see what i could see on the deaths

945
00:35:14,310 --> 00:35:10,079
and it just

946
00:35:17,589 --> 00:35:14,320
not much of there except the shooting

947
00:35:19,030 --> 00:35:17,599
of the young lady and uh officers

948
00:35:22,470 --> 00:35:19,040
starting to come out now a little

949
00:35:30,870 --> 00:35:26,069
you know that kind of thing that's

950
00:35:33,750 --> 00:35:30,880
a bad situation so a group like

951
00:35:35,510 --> 00:35:33,760
isis or al qaeda i'm thinking almost

952
00:35:37,510 --> 00:35:35,520
must be kicking themselves

953
00:35:39,109 --> 00:35:37,520
watching this as they see how easy it

954
00:35:43,109 --> 00:35:39,119
was to break into

955
00:35:45,670 --> 00:35:43,119
the capital i mean that would be a major

956
00:35:46,470 --> 00:35:45,680
feather in their cap to break into the

957
00:35:49,589 --> 00:35:46,480
capital well

958
00:35:51,270 --> 00:35:49,599
they tried once before remember the

959
00:35:53,750 --> 00:35:51,280
capital has been a target

960
00:35:55,670 --> 00:35:53,760
that's with the plane that went down in

961
00:35:57,750 --> 00:35:55,680
romania

962
00:36:01,109 --> 00:35:57,760
more than likely and most people agree

963
00:36:04,550 --> 00:36:02,790
so the capital has been a prime target

964
00:36:07,670 --> 00:36:04,560
about qaeda

965
00:36:10,150 --> 00:36:07,680
and now as you say and i've been

966
00:36:10,870 --> 00:36:10,160
very concerned about this not just al

967
00:36:13,349 --> 00:36:10,880
qaeda

968
00:36:17,349 --> 00:36:13,359
isis or any other group says my god is

969
00:36:22,710 --> 00:36:20,550
let's do some more planning yeah

970
00:36:23,670 --> 00:36:22,720
but they they probably do recognize that

971
00:36:27,510 --> 00:36:23,680
this will change

972
00:36:31,030 --> 00:36:27,520
things from a security standpoint

973
00:36:32,630 --> 00:36:31,040
we can expect tighter security uh with

974
00:36:35,170 --> 00:36:32,640
any kind of event that comes close to

975
00:36:36,470 --> 00:36:35,180
the capitol we're probably going to see

976
00:36:39,990 --> 00:36:36,480
[Music]

977
00:36:42,630 --> 00:36:40,000
buttressed security guards police

978
00:36:43,270 --> 00:36:42,640
national guard just on standby just in

979
00:36:46,550 --> 00:36:43,280
case

980
00:36:49,670 --> 00:36:46,560
ready to deploy on a moment and i think

981
00:36:52,310 --> 00:36:49,680
we'll actually see as i was saying

982
00:36:53,829 --> 00:36:52,320
perhaps canisters or tear gas or you

983
00:36:55,829 --> 00:36:53,839
know pepper spray or whatever around the

984
00:36:57,190 --> 00:36:55,839
capital we will see some increase in

985
00:37:00,470 --> 00:36:57,200
this

986
00:37:02,870 --> 00:37:00,480
absolutely you have to have it yeah

987
00:37:04,790 --> 00:37:02,880
and which raises a good perhaps final

988
00:37:08,310 --> 00:37:04,800
question is you know how do we defend

989
00:37:11,030 --> 00:37:08,320
it going forward without destroying

990
00:37:11,910 --> 00:37:11,040
the natural beauty the people's access

991
00:37:13,190 --> 00:37:11,920
to it

992
00:37:15,270 --> 00:37:13,200
you know and look like a third world

993
00:37:18,950 --> 00:37:15,280
country where all of our monuments are

994
00:37:22,550 --> 00:37:18,960
boarded up yeah i agree that's a concern

995
00:37:24,870 --> 00:37:22,560
but um something we have to have

996
00:37:26,230 --> 00:37:24,880
i remember the white house they put up

997
00:37:28,710 --> 00:37:26,240
barriers and

998
00:37:30,950 --> 00:37:28,720
you know they had to they started with

999
00:37:33,829 --> 00:37:30,960
dump trucks and went to walls

1000
00:37:34,140 --> 00:37:33,839
you know it's just part of where we are

1001
00:37:35,510 --> 00:37:34,150
now

1002
00:37:38,630 --> 00:37:35,520
[Music]

1003
00:37:41,349 --> 00:37:38,640
uh and we can expect more of it

1004
00:37:42,790 --> 00:37:41,359
so we have to have increases in physical

1005
00:37:45,990 --> 00:37:42,800
security

1006
00:37:47,990 --> 00:37:46,000
we have to anticipate better we have to

1007
00:37:49,829 --> 00:37:48,000
be more proactive

1008
00:37:51,109 --> 00:37:49,839
uh not just reactive we're being

1009
00:37:52,790 --> 00:37:51,119
reactive right now

1010
00:37:55,030 --> 00:37:52,800
and we'll put up security barriers and

1011
00:37:58,470 --> 00:37:55,040
we'll put up uh increased security

1012
00:38:01,030 --> 00:37:58,480
we need to start thinking not just about

1013
00:38:02,470 --> 00:38:01,040
the capital do we need to take another

1014
00:38:03,829 --> 00:38:02,480
look at the white house do we

1015
00:38:05,670 --> 00:38:03,839
need to take a look some of the

1016
00:38:07,270 --> 00:38:05,680
government bill about the fbi building

1017
00:38:08,870 --> 00:38:07,280
how secure is it

1018
00:38:12,950 --> 00:38:08,880
so i think we need to take another

1019
00:38:15,990 --> 00:38:12,960
closer look because i hate to say it

1020
00:38:18,310 --> 00:38:16,000
we're in that time where we're seeing

1021
00:38:20,550 --> 00:38:18,320
a lot of violence whether people want to

1022
00:38:23,750 --> 00:38:20,560
acknowledge it or not

1023
00:38:24,069 --> 00:38:23,760
these cities have been burning down this

1024
00:38:26,470 --> 00:38:24,079
is

1025
00:38:27,990 --> 00:38:26,480
you know we've been seeing violence now

1026
00:38:31,190 --> 00:38:28,000
many months

1027
00:38:34,630 --> 00:38:31,200
and not much is being done

1028
00:38:38,310 --> 00:38:34,640
so i i think hopefully

1029
00:38:41,510 --> 00:38:38,320
people wake up uh after this

1030
00:38:44,310 --> 00:38:41,520
and say this was the u.s capital if it's

1031
00:38:46,470 --> 00:38:44,320
the us capital it can be anything

1032
00:38:50,230 --> 00:38:46,480
and so we better start taking another

1033
00:38:54,310 --> 00:38:53,270
yeah it almost served as a fire drill in

1034
00:38:56,710 --> 00:38:54,320
some respects

1035
00:38:58,150 --> 00:38:56,720
and hopefully will be responded to as

1036
00:38:58,470 --> 00:38:58,160
such because it certainly could have

1037
00:39:01,670 --> 00:38:58,480
been

1038
00:39:04,550 --> 00:39:01,680
a lot worse for all the

1039
00:39:05,190 --> 00:39:04,560
critique that this has received rightly

1040
00:39:07,750 --> 00:39:05,200
so

1041
00:39:08,790 --> 00:39:07,760
um still bottom line when they got in

1042
00:39:10,470 --> 00:39:08,800
there

1043
00:39:12,470 --> 00:39:10,480
they didn't do anything terribly

1044
00:39:15,829 --> 00:39:12,480
egregious for instance they didn't

1045
00:39:17,910 --> 00:39:15,839
kill anyone um but you know imagine if

1046
00:39:19,829 --> 00:39:17,920
that's what had happened well you know

1047
00:39:22,310 --> 00:39:19,839
we can look at past examples

1048
00:39:23,829 --> 00:39:22,320
congress people i mean you remember the

1049
00:39:28,550 --> 00:39:23,839
baseball game well

1050
00:39:30,470 --> 00:39:28,560
where steve scalia almost got killed

1051
00:39:32,150 --> 00:39:30,480
from a gunman outside the fence and

1052
00:39:34,550 --> 00:39:32,160
others and

1053
00:39:36,390 --> 00:39:34,560
you know the law enforcement stopped it

1054
00:39:39,430 --> 00:39:36,400
they got injured

1055
00:39:43,270 --> 00:39:39,440
i mean congress

1056
00:39:46,230 --> 00:39:43,280
men and women um have been targets

1057
00:39:48,069 --> 00:39:46,240
presidents of target these are a target

1058
00:39:51,109 --> 00:39:48,079
we can't forget that

1059
00:39:53,430 --> 00:39:51,119
and they can't go lacks on us

1060
00:39:54,150 --> 00:39:53,440
and when there's a crowd i think what

1061
00:39:57,270 --> 00:39:54,160
we'll see

1062
00:39:58,470 --> 00:39:57,280
is immediate increased security and

1063
00:40:01,750 --> 00:39:58,480
hopefully there will be

1064
00:40:05,510 --> 00:40:01,760
improvements in physical

1065
00:40:08,550 --> 00:40:05,520
uh and in anticipation we should have

1066
00:40:10,550 --> 00:40:08,560
we should have anticipated yeah

1067
00:40:11,670 --> 00:40:10,560
um someone should have you know i don't

1068
00:40:14,710 --> 00:40:11,680
want to put the blame on

1069
00:40:16,550 --> 00:40:14,720
anyone you can't just have the capital

1070
00:40:19,750 --> 00:40:16,560
guarded by some people and

1071
00:40:21,589 --> 00:40:19,760
you know you overrun we can't do that

1072
00:40:22,870 --> 00:40:21,599
it might look bad to have increased

1073
00:40:25,589 --> 00:40:22,880
security

1074
00:40:28,790 --> 00:40:25,599
but it's better than someone getting in

1075
00:40:31,270 --> 00:40:28,800
there and killing 10 congress people

1076
00:40:32,150 --> 00:40:31,280
right and it was all done apparently

1077
00:40:35,109 --> 00:40:32,160
without

1078
00:40:36,710 --> 00:40:35,119
guns that's the astounding part you know

1079
00:40:38,950 --> 00:40:36,720
i don't think we've seen a single

1080
00:40:39,829 --> 00:40:38,960
gun thank god but they they broke in

1081
00:40:41,990 --> 00:40:39,839
mostly through

1082
00:40:43,990 --> 00:40:42,000
flag poles it looks like i saw one

1083
00:40:45,910 --> 00:40:44,000
report that said a person had it done

1084
00:40:49,750 --> 00:40:45,920
and that's all it said

1085
00:40:50,710 --> 00:40:49,760
and um so i'm even have a hard time

1086
00:40:54,870 --> 00:40:50,720
finding out

1087
00:40:59,030 --> 00:40:56,950
so there's some sketchy information i

1088
00:41:00,230 --> 00:40:59,040
don't know why it's not being reported

1089
00:41:02,710 --> 00:41:00,240
better

1090
00:41:03,430 --> 00:41:02,720
but the focus seems to be not on that

1091
00:41:06,630 --> 00:41:03,440
focusing

1092
00:41:09,750 --> 00:41:06,640
on honestly how

1093
00:41:11,589 --> 00:41:09,760
can we go after trump

1094
00:41:13,270 --> 00:41:11,599
and his supporters that seems to be the

1095
00:41:15,990 --> 00:41:13,280
focus

1096
00:41:17,349 --> 00:41:16,000
uh whether we like it or not and it's

1097
00:41:19,990 --> 00:41:17,359
continuing today

1098
00:41:21,430 --> 00:41:20,000
yeah yeah i thought that he was done but

1099
00:41:22,309 --> 00:41:21,440
i think he's going to stay in the news

1100
00:41:24,790 --> 00:41:22,319
for quite

1101
00:41:26,309 --> 00:41:24,800
some time uh some of those networks they

1102
00:41:28,069 --> 00:41:26,319
make too much money off of trump and

1103
00:41:30,230 --> 00:41:28,079
they don't want to let it go

1104
00:41:31,349 --> 00:41:30,240
well we were talking recently some

1105
00:41:33,990 --> 00:41:31,359
colleagues and

1106
00:41:35,430 --> 00:41:34,000
i would be very surprised and this is

1107
00:41:38,150 --> 00:41:35,440
not easy to do

1108
00:41:39,829 --> 00:41:38,160
but i would be very surprised not to see

1109
00:41:42,470 --> 00:41:39,839
a trump network

1110
00:41:43,349 --> 00:41:42,480
form of twitter and when you think about

1111
00:41:46,230 --> 00:41:43,359
it

1112
00:41:48,630 --> 00:41:46,240
you got 75 million immediate people is

1113
00:41:51,030 --> 00:41:48,640
going to go to it

1114
00:41:51,750 --> 00:41:51,040
um so i wouldn't be surprised we haven't

1115
00:41:55,510 --> 00:41:51,760
heard the end

1116
00:41:56,069 --> 00:41:55,520
of donald trump yet no twitter seems to

1117
00:41:59,510 --> 00:41:56,079
be

1118
00:42:00,870 --> 00:41:59,520
mean

1119
00:42:02,790 --> 00:42:00,880
it doesn't make a lot of business sense

1120
00:42:06,150 --> 00:42:02,800
to me you know

1121
00:42:08,309 --> 00:42:06,160
and to block out parlor i mean it's just

1122
00:42:09,510 --> 00:42:08,319
you're starting to diverge on antitrust

1123
00:42:12,870 --> 00:42:09,520
and all kinds of

1124
00:42:16,150 --> 00:42:12,880
laws here where big guys

1125
00:42:18,790 --> 00:42:16,160
have become a group monopoly now we

1126
00:42:21,430 --> 00:42:18,800
call them a monopoly they're a group

1127
00:42:24,790 --> 00:42:21,440
monopoly now they get on the phone hey

1128
00:42:28,230 --> 00:42:24,800
that's all that's all blocked forever

1129
00:42:29,990 --> 00:42:28,240
i mean that's what's happening so

1130
00:42:32,309 --> 00:42:30,000
uh and you know we haven't even talked

1131
00:42:35,750 --> 00:42:32,319
about the media you know

1132
00:42:37,109 --> 00:42:35,760
my analogy is a fireplace i i build my

1133
00:42:38,950 --> 00:42:37,119
fireplace everywhere

1134
00:42:41,750 --> 00:42:38,960
you got to put sticks in it you get

1135
00:42:45,030 --> 00:42:41,760
kindling and some logs

1136
00:42:47,430 --> 00:42:45,040
here in the political situation six and

1137
00:42:48,550 --> 00:42:47,440
henley have been going in for a long

1138
00:42:50,950 --> 00:42:48,560
time

1139
00:42:52,550 --> 00:42:50,960
the speech might have been the match

1140
00:42:54,230 --> 00:42:52,560
that started it

1141
00:42:56,230 --> 00:42:54,240
but we're still putting logs on that

1142
00:42:59,589 --> 00:42:56,240
fire now today

1143
00:43:03,270 --> 00:42:59,599
we're still doing it the fire is

1144
00:43:04,630 --> 00:43:03,280
going large now if we left it alone it

1145
00:43:07,750 --> 00:43:04,640
would go out

1146
00:43:09,829 --> 00:43:07,760
but you know if we moved on to

1147
00:43:11,190 --> 00:43:09,839
the biden presidency whether we went to

1148
00:43:13,430 --> 00:43:11,200
or not

1149
00:43:15,990 --> 00:43:13,440
and just moved on with policies and that

1150
00:43:19,030 --> 00:43:16,000
type of thing but the thing buy down

1151
00:43:20,470 --> 00:43:19,040
but we're stoking it poking that fire

1152
00:43:24,150 --> 00:43:20,480
daily

1153
00:43:31,270 --> 00:43:27,670
and it puts president trump in even

1154
00:43:34,710 --> 00:43:31,280
a more defensive mode because he

1155
00:43:38,309 --> 00:43:34,720
feels that he was treated unjustly

1156
00:43:42,150 --> 00:43:38,319
he feels like he's a victim of him

1157
00:43:45,349 --> 00:43:42,160
um and i don't see him going away

1158
00:43:47,349 --> 00:43:45,359
into the quiet of the night yeah you're

1159
00:43:48,309 --> 00:43:47,359
giving his supporters more things to get

1160
00:43:51,270 --> 00:43:48,319
worked up about

1161
00:43:53,430 --> 00:43:51,280
for sure and rightly so like i said they

1162
00:43:56,069 --> 00:43:53,440
could have exited with the high ground

1163
00:43:57,430 --> 00:43:56,079
look at trump yeah look how silly he was

1164
00:44:00,470 --> 00:43:57,440
and the way he went out but

1165
00:44:02,710 --> 00:44:00,480
now they have to out silly him

1166
00:44:03,750 --> 00:44:02,720
by saying that he shouldn't be even

1167
00:44:05,589 --> 00:44:03,760
allowed to

1168
00:44:07,349 --> 00:44:05,599
say what he wants to say on twitter when

1169
00:44:08,790 --> 00:44:07,359
you know they already censor him as

1170
00:44:10,950 --> 00:44:08,800
they do they put all kinds of warning

1171
00:44:13,510 --> 00:44:10,960
labels on his things that's not enough

1172
00:44:15,270 --> 00:44:13,520
he needs to have a permanent life ban i

1173
00:44:18,309 --> 00:44:15,280
mean it's just

1174
00:44:22,069 --> 00:44:18,319
i can't can't believe the logic

1175
00:44:23,510 --> 00:44:22,079
of it there's no logic um you know you

1176
00:44:24,309 --> 00:44:23,520
have to know that you're stoking the

1177
00:44:26,230 --> 00:44:24,319
fire

1178
00:44:27,829 --> 00:44:26,240
you do these things and you're not

1179
00:44:29,510 --> 00:44:27,839
talking about public supporters you're

1180
00:44:31,510 --> 00:44:29,520
talking about half the country

1181
00:44:32,710 --> 00:44:31,520
well and he's just so good for business

1182
00:44:34,309 --> 00:44:32,720
i mean people were

1183
00:44:36,069 --> 00:44:34,319
talking about twitter before trump

1184
00:44:38,309 --> 00:44:36,079
became president it would be like

1185
00:44:40,470 --> 00:44:38,319
cnn deciding we're not going to mention

1186
00:44:43,349 --> 00:44:40,480
trump's name anymore

1187
00:44:45,030 --> 00:44:43,359
well gee cnn you guys are doing great

1188
00:44:47,589 --> 00:44:45,040
covering trump all the time

1189
00:44:48,950 --> 00:44:47,599
why would you stop covering him are they

1190
00:44:52,309 --> 00:44:48,960
going to cover now

1191
00:44:54,150 --> 00:44:52,319
right you know so there's

1192
00:44:56,950 --> 00:44:54,160
there's going to be a loss there for

1193
00:44:59,109 --> 00:44:56,960
them uh unless he continues

1194
00:45:00,790 --> 00:44:59,119
you know with something but i i think

1195
00:45:02,550 --> 00:45:00,800
that i just wouldn't be surprised to see

1196
00:45:05,990 --> 00:45:02,560
him start up his own

1197
00:45:06,630 --> 00:45:06,000
form of twitter and uh you know social

1198
00:45:10,150 --> 00:45:06,640
networking

1199
00:45:11,670 --> 00:45:10,160
you can't um i mean there's a lot going

1200
00:45:15,190 --> 00:45:11,680
against that because

1201
00:45:18,470 --> 00:45:15,200
everybody's saying no networks you know

1202
00:45:20,390 --> 00:45:18,480
uh how do you form a network these days

1203
00:45:23,270 --> 00:45:20,400
when everybody's saying no

1204
00:45:24,150 --> 00:45:23,280
so even more people are jumping on

1205
00:45:26,390 --> 00:45:24,160
bandwagon

1206
00:45:28,790 --> 00:45:26,400
with twitter and you know google's

1207
00:45:31,030 --> 00:45:28,800
jumping in amazon

1208
00:45:32,630 --> 00:45:31,040
wow oh yeah i mean they are exerting

1209
00:45:34,069 --> 00:45:32,640
their monopoly powers that's for sure i

1210
00:45:35,430 --> 00:45:34,079
mean imagine if he did try to start

1211
00:45:37,270 --> 00:45:35,440
something we already know that

1212
00:45:39,109 --> 00:45:37,280
amazon's not going to host him on his

1213
00:45:39,990 --> 00:45:39,119
servers we know that apple's not going

1214
00:45:42,150 --> 00:45:40,000
to carry his

1215
00:45:44,829 --> 00:45:42,160
app you got to figure spectrum cable

1216
00:45:48,309 --> 00:45:44,839
probably won't carry his cable a channel

1217
00:45:49,750 --> 00:45:48,319
so i mean everybody's concerned about

1218
00:45:51,190 --> 00:45:49,760
the government suppressing speech but it

1219
00:45:52,309 --> 00:45:51,200
turns out private industry is the best

1220
00:45:55,750 --> 00:45:52,319
at it

1221
00:45:58,069 --> 00:45:55,760
absolutely and i hate to say it

1222
00:46:00,950 --> 00:45:58,079
because i hate to go left or right here

1223
00:46:04,550 --> 00:46:00,960
but they're totally supported

1224
00:46:05,750 --> 00:46:04,560
by the left so they continue to stoke

1225
00:46:09,829 --> 00:46:05,760
the fire

1226
00:46:12,950 --> 00:46:09,839
and um i think this

1227
00:46:15,190 --> 00:46:12,960
impeachment attempt what nine days left

1228
00:46:17,109 --> 00:46:15,200
is probably one of the most important

1229
00:46:20,870 --> 00:46:17,119
things i've ever seen

1230
00:46:23,990 --> 00:46:20,880
uh we we should be passing

1231
00:46:27,030 --> 00:46:24,000
cobit relief you know

1232
00:46:29,750 --> 00:46:27,040
why are we distracted with

1233
00:46:31,349 --> 00:46:29,760
the man is is going to be gone in nine

1234
00:46:34,550 --> 00:46:31,359
days

1235
00:46:37,829 --> 00:46:34,560
why aren't we like we say doing

1236
00:46:39,589 --> 00:46:37,839
the country's business and why

1237
00:46:40,870 --> 00:46:39,599
you know it it's trump derangement

1238
00:46:44,150 --> 00:46:40,880
syndrome yes

1239
00:46:45,910 --> 00:46:44,160
which is rampant and and you've got the

1240
00:46:46,470 --> 00:46:45,920
incoming president who doesn't have the

1241
00:46:49,109 --> 00:46:46,480
guts

1242
00:46:49,910 --> 00:46:49,119
to stand up to the people in the party

1243
00:46:52,470 --> 00:46:49,920
and say guys

1244
00:46:52,950 --> 00:46:52,480
enough is enough let's move forward you

1245
00:46:56,710 --> 00:46:52,960
know as

1246
00:47:00,309 --> 00:46:56,720
someone said all it would take is for

1247
00:47:04,230 --> 00:47:00,319
uh biden joe biden to pick a

1248
00:47:07,510 --> 00:47:04,240
phone call nancy pelosi and say stop

1249
00:47:09,670 --> 00:47:07,520
stop with the impeachment

1250
00:47:11,030 --> 00:47:09,680
this isn't doing any good and it would

1251
00:47:12,630 --> 00:47:11,040
stop

1252
00:47:14,230 --> 00:47:12,640
and then you know we could start moving

1253
00:47:16,870 --> 00:47:14,240
on but you know

1254
00:47:18,470 --> 00:47:16,880
well he would run the risk of uh

1255
00:47:21,670 --> 00:47:18,480
upsetting

1256
00:47:24,230 --> 00:47:21,680
25 of his base

1257
00:47:25,670 --> 00:47:24,240
he would have the benefit of 75 of his

1258
00:47:27,589 --> 00:47:25,680
opponents

1259
00:47:29,349 --> 00:47:27,599
warming to him a little bit and that's

1260
00:47:31,030 --> 00:47:29,359
what you're supposed to be mr

1261
00:47:32,950 --> 00:47:31,040
i'm going to be president to all the

1262
00:47:36,230 --> 00:47:32,960
people as he continues to say

1263
00:47:38,950 --> 00:47:36,240
mr unity right mr unity prove it

1264
00:47:39,750 --> 00:47:38,960
you know somebody needs to have the guts

1265
00:47:41,589 --> 00:47:39,760
to prove it

1266
00:47:43,430 --> 00:47:41,599
yeah we haven't seen it yet and i i

1267
00:47:46,150 --> 00:47:43,440
don't think he can

1268
00:47:47,349 --> 00:47:46,160
much pressure no he's too insecure in

1269
00:47:49,990 --> 00:47:47,359
his power

1270
00:47:50,470 --> 00:47:50,000
and in in feeling like he just cannot

1271
00:47:53,750 --> 00:47:50,480
upset

1272
00:47:55,829 --> 00:47:53,760
anyone in his base right and we don't

1273
00:47:58,150 --> 00:47:55,839
know who's controlling all that anyway

1274
00:47:59,910 --> 00:47:58,160
yet thank you again to our guest gary

1275
00:48:01,670 --> 00:47:59,920
jackson you can check out his book on

1276
00:48:04,230 --> 00:48:01,680
amazon surviving mass

1277
00:48:05,510 --> 00:48:04,240
victim attacks also if you missed it you

1278
00:48:07,430 --> 00:48:05,520
should check out the episode we did with

1279
00:48:09,030 --> 00:48:07,440
him about the las vegas shooting

1280
00:48:11,030 --> 00:48:09,040
thank you to our producer michael parker

1281
00:48:14,510 --> 00:48:11,040
we'll be back soon with another episode

1282
00:48:20,870 --> 00:48:17,589
[Music]

1283
00:48:24,390 --> 00:48:20,880
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1284
00:48:26,630 --> 00:48:24,400
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1285
00:48:27,430 --> 00:48:26,640
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1286
00:48:30,069 --> 00:48:27,440
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